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Friday, July 30, 2004

John Kerry - Vietnam & the 1970's - An Inside Look at a Manipulative Mind

Kerry Kottontail

John Forbes Kerry loves his initials, JFK. In his mind it puts him right alongside John Fitzgerald Kennedy. But some would say his initials stand for "Just For Kerry." "Just For Kerry" sums up exactly the essence of the man. Herewith is an inside look at how that explains his motivations & manipulations in his quest for the presidency & of his thought processes toward that end.

Kerry's presidential ambitions go way back to at least his days at Yale University. His desire to be President was known to his classmates. He & his family hobnobbed with the rich & political. As a teenager he knew the real JFK personally. Undoubtedly this had an influence on his political ambitions. His European childhood schooling along with his life amongst the powerful taught him how to attain what he wanted. For a young boy who also had an overblown sense of self, this was the perfect education. He went to Yale University & immediately got involved with the politics of the campus, becoming president of the Democratic Club. As a student, he was draft deferred from Vietnam. Ever the politician, he sensed the winds of discord over the war & spoke out against it at his graduation. Ah, but that nasty draft board was at his heels.

The notion that Kerry initially volunteered for Vietnam is malarky. If he was so eager, he would have joined the Army or Marines for a guaranteed trip. And how odd it is that he is portrayed as rushing off to Vietnam while at the same time speaking out against the war. John Kerry never wanted to go to Vietnam, as many his age felt. He lost his deferment at graduation. He asked the draft board for an extended deferment so he could study in Europe. It was denied. He was in effect a failed draft dodger. What to do, what to do? Because of his family's influence he could have easily joined the National Guard. But, ever the politician, he joined the Navy. This accomplished a few goals. He effectively avoided Vietnam, he built up a military resume for future political desires & it put him in league with the real JFK as a Navy man. Kerry wound up on a frigate that crossed the Pacific to drop off supplies at Vietnam & then returned to California. He spent 7 months in California. Ever the politician, he realized a frigate was not in league with the real JFK's exploits as a PT boat commander, especially if a political future was a consideration. Something a tad more adventuresome was needed to enhance his political resume. When he discovered the existence of Swift Boats & their mission he found his link to the real JFK. So he volunteered for Swift Boat duty in Vietnam. But with a caveat.

Kerry is on record as saying that he thought Swift Boat duty was the safest duty in Vietnam. And it was. Swift Boats patrolled the coastline of Vietnam from the ocean where there was no combat. Ever the politician, Kerry knew this gave him a great addition to his political resume - he could say he was in Vietnam, but was safe enough away from it. Much to Kerry's surprise & panic, I'm sure, this all changed 2 weeks after he arrived. Admiral Nimitz redefined the Swift Boat missions & placed them into the river deltas. The safest job now became a dangerous one. This gave Kerry apoplexy - if he was killed this would ruin his dreams of being president. Ever the politician & to save his rear end from harm, he managed to find an obscure regulation whereby a triple purple heart winner could ask for relief from combat duty & go stateside. This set Kerry on his quest for medals as soon as possible. Don't believe that Kerry got his 3 purple hearts & then was told, "by the way - now ya can go home, kid." No. Kerry by design worked to get those medals from the start.

Kerry managed to get those 3 medals in record time - within 4 months of arriving in Vietnam. He also managed to pick up a Bronze Star & Silver Star. How he got those Purple Hearts & whether he deserved them is contentious indeed. But all 3 wounds were superficial with only one requiring disinfectant & a band-aid. He spent no time in a hospital or under a doctors' care. In fact, his commander has said that he's had worse wounds from a rose bush thorn. When you hear the words "Purple Heart" this is not what you envision as the wounds of a soldier. (There has been some suspicion that he might have self-inflicted at least one of those superficial wounds. If true, the man is extremely manipulative to the point of being sick in the mind.) Many soldiers in combat received more serious wounds & shook it off & went back to their job. No medals for them. It didn't even occur to them to ask for them. But Kerry had his agenda & connived & manipulated the bureaucracy to his own ends.

Kerry's Bronze Star & Silver Star are contentious also. Bronze Stars amongst the officer class were given out like candy. Kerry, as an officer, knew this. Ever the politician, he went for one. And grabbed a Silver Star to boot. Another page for the political resume. Though why he alone & none of his enlisted crew received medals is a mystery. But Kerry had his out - stateside, baby! He left his crew behind. A loyal officer wouldn't. And many officers didn't. But Kerry had bigger plans & he really didn't care if he left those suckers behind - or "band of brothers" as he now calls them. Kerry is only loyal to himself. He managed to put a quick 4 months in 'Nam & grabbed some medals. His calculated "safe" Navy service suddenly became wildly successful toward his future.

Kerry left 'Nam & requested a cushy assignment as an Admiral's aide in Brooklyn. While there, Kerry, off-duty at least, flew anti-war speakers to rallies. After a short stint there he requested & was granted early release in 1969 from active duty so that he could run for a Congressional seat. He was discharged 6 months early. Notice Kerry's mindset. From day one, anything & everything that furthered his political ambitions was to be used. He used the Navy as a stepping stone, the similarities with the real JFK as a stepping stone, the time in 'Nam as a stepping stone, the fortuitous medals as a stepping stone, the 3-time wounded regulation to get out of 'Nam as a stepping stone, the early discharge to run for office as a stepping stone. Kerry even brought his movie camera & film to 'Nam , a la the real JFK, to document his exploits as a stepping stone, knowing they would prove useful in the future.

Kerry's driving thirst for elected office demonstrates that he couldn't wait to get out of the Navy & run for office, even though he had zero experience or political base - he was as qualified to run as Joe the hotdog stand guy. He didn't even think to run for mayor or councilman or even state legislator to at least get experience - it was Congress or bust. Chutzpah at its best. But after 3 months of campaigning in 1970 for a Congressional seat another Democrat was given the nomination.

Kerry got more actively involved in the anti-war movement in his first run for Congress under that banner. Kerry's anti-war sympathies came not out of concern for the Vietnam War, although he would have you believe it. No. Ever the politician, he sensed that a political shift toward protest would further his ambitions for political office in liberal Massachusetts. After all, he lost his bid for Congress to a more rabid anti-war advocate. Ever the politician, Kerry joined Vietnam Veterans Against the War. This group became his "useful tool" to further Kerry's ambitions. He would exploit this group to further advance his political goals, he would grab a leadership position as a springboard for his agenda, which was an elected Kerry. Though some in the organization considered him arrogant & opportunistic, he projected a more clean cut image then the rag-tag image they had. He reached celebrity status, if not quite political status, when in April 1971 he testified before Congress.

"I Committed Atrocities"

It what has since become a rallying point for those against Kerry, John Kerry in Senate testimony viciously trashed the U.S. servicemen in Vietnam. He gave out a laundry list of atrocities they committed & claimed this was the rule, not the exception, in Vietnam. But this was all hyperbole & lies & Kerry knew it. As to Kerry's statement that he personally committed atrocities too, which so outrages veterans , if you listen carefully to what he said, Kerry parsed his words enough that it sounds like he committed atrocities, but he didn't. It was all b.s. & showmanship. (If I'm wrong & he did commit atrocities, then how in the hell can he receive even one vote? Are the voters that ignorant? What the hell is wrong with the American voter? And why is the media not ripping him for it? My God, look at what they did with the prison scandal in Iraq - & they were abuses, not atrocities.) Kerry even claimed the 165 men with him were Viet Vets & decorated ones at that. It turned out this was all a lie. It is reprehensible that Kerry trashed the soldiers using lies to further his goals. But Kerry was riding the anti-war wave & using it to further his ambitions. Kerry reached his goal of becoming leader of the group. A short while later they staged a public event of throwing their combat medals into a trash bin. Kerry said he threw his medals also. But Kerry was not that dumb. He kept his because, again, ever the politician, he knew they could prove useful in the future. But the "useful fools" who did throw their medals away fit in with his goals.

A 250,000 person protest demonstration that week propelled him into the media limelight. He met with more & more political & Hollywood personages. He was in effect building a contact list which would help him when he ran again for office. Soon after he was on "60 minutes." Even Richard Nixon took note of Kerry's notoriety. His political star was rising quickly & he traveled the country making anti-war speeches. Kerry had become a national figure. This is exactly where Kerry always dreamed to be. This was his ticket to elective office, thanks to exploitation of an anti-war group that he cared little about or little about its cause. Kerry left the group months later. They gave him what he wanted. It was time to go for the gold - Congress.

In 1972 Kerry began shopping Massachusetts for a Congressional District that he could run in. His many address changes attests to that fact. Mr. Opportunist strikes again. He cared not about representing a certain local people as much as he cared for self-promotion into Congress. It didn't matter who or what he represented, as long as he got elected. He finally found a district to run in & suffered an ego bashing primary loss. Kerry soon found another district to run in. He got the party nomination but lost in the general election after blowing a huge lead.

Kerry went on to law school & became a prosecutor, which was a natural road to elective office. However, friends were astonished at his move, as a prosecutor was the establishment - defense lawyers were where the anti-establishment crowd went. But Kerry knew what side the bread was buttered on & his professed beliefs would not stand in the way of political opportunity. Thus closes this chapter on John Kerry's road to the presidency.

John Kerry is an overly ambitious & calculating person. Beware of the breed. Overly ambitious people are self-serving, self-focused, self-consuming egoists. They are self-promoters in the extreme. They will say anything, do anything to further their ambitions. They are opportunists who will twist & distort facts & outright lie. They will rewrite their history & manipulate people & events to further "self." They will profess loyalty when in fact the only loyalty they have is to themselves. If you look at Kerry in this light it should become obvious that Kerry, the elitist & rich, blueblooded white man, cares not about the poor or downtrodden or the sufferings of the middle class. Kerry cares only about Kerry., thus the "Just For Kerry" monikor. This will become more obvious as his political & personal life are further examined.

Forget everything else about Kerry - his manipulations, his horrible Senate attendance, his 19 years in the Senate with few legislative accomplishments initiated by him, his notorious flip-flops, his parsing of statements he made, his sudden embracing of "values" & patriotism & the military, his extreme liberal record & his $1,000 haircuts. Aside from these, it is astonishing that anyone would vote for him after he thoroughly trashed the Vietnam servicemen with charges of war crimes & atrocities which he knew to be false, but yet used to further his own political ambitions. And it is incredible that anyone would vote for a potential Commander-in-Chief who admitted that he himself committed war crimes & atrocities. Am I missing something with this picture?! But, no one said Americans have to be smart or informed. The irony of a Commander-in-Chief with a war crimes past. Go figure.

Kerry's Shipmates Speak Out
Vietnam Vets Against Kerry


Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Date: 7/29/2004 1:07 pm"

From todays LA Times:

"In 1969 I was John Kerry's gun mate atop of the Swift boat in Viet Nam" Fred Short, an Arkansas computer programmer said,
"and I just wanted to let everybody know that contrary to the rumors that the other side is putting out, John Kerry's blood is red, not blue. I know, I've seen it."

"If it werent for Sen. John Kerry, on the 28th of February, 1969, the day he won the Silver Star....you and I wouldnt be having this conversation," he told the North Carolina delegation at the Democratic Convention. "My name would be on a long black wall in Washington DC. John Kerry saved my life"

The men who will speak tonite prior to Sen. Kerry's speech "are the men who served with Sen. Kerry when he got three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star" "That," he said, "speaks volumes"

Short spoke about the aftermath of a firefight "I had to sit on my hands they were shaking so hard....He went to every man on that boat and put his arm around them, and asked them how they were doing. I never had an officer do that, before or since. That's the mettle of the man, John Kerry."

Another crew member, David Alston told the convention "I can still see him now, standing in the doorway of the pilothouse firing his M-16 shouting orders through the smoke and chaos...Even wounded, or confronting sights no man should ever have to see, he never lost his cool."

4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Kerry's post-Vietnam protests against the war were buttressed by ex-Green Beret Jim Rassman: "We knew at this point that the war was a mistake."

4:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To begin building his case to become commander-in-chief, Kerry did much more than rely on 35-year-old testimonials. He sketched the high points of how he would improve the U.S. military, saying that he would:

♦ Add 40,000 active-duty troops.

♦ Double the number of special-forces troops.

♦ End the reliance on National Guard and reserve forces to enlarge the active-duty military.

♦ Provide better equipment for troops."

4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"By Lawrence M. O'Rourke -- Bee Washington Bureau
Published 2:15 am PDT Friday, July 30, 2004
BOSTON - Just as they served with young Navy Lt. John Kerry aboard an aluminum swift boat on the dangerous brown waterways of the Mekong Delta 35 years ago, they are ready to follow Kerry's lead for the next three months and get him into the White House.
Jim Rassmann, David Alston and Fred Short are among a dozen Vietnam veterans who have emerged at the Democratic National Convention as critical aging warriors in Kerry's political army.

They say they are bonded to Kerry because they followed him as they dodged rifle fire and rocket-propelled grenades fired by Viet Cong hidden along a river's banks.

In a speech from the convention podium in the Fleet Center Thursday night, Rassmann explained that he had a special reason to thrust himself into a political campaign.

"John Kerry saved my life," said Rassmann, a Green Beret whom Kerry pulled from a river after he had fallen off the swift boat. "I've witnessed his bravery and leadership under fire. And I know he will make a great commander in chief."

Rassmann was among the Vietnam War veterans who came to Kerry's rescue in Iowa last winter, when the presidential campaign of the Massachusetts senator was in trouble.

Former Georgia Sen. Max Cleland, himself a wounded Vietnam veteran who introduced Kerry on Thursday night, said Kerry's military record underscores the campaign's claim that the Democratic ticket of Kerry and Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina would be strong in defending the United States against terrorists and enemy nations.

The Vietnam veterans who have become part of the Kerry political organization say they want to talk about Kerry's style and leadership, as well as his military prowess.

"We became a band of brothers," Short said, recalling the tense days on patrol in search of fishing boats suspected of conveying weapons for the Viet Cong, and the relief they felt when they reached a safe harbor.

Short said that safety inevitably meant horseplay with Kerry, stripping away his combat gear and sign of rank, joining in as they pushed each other into the water for much-needed baths.

More grimly, the three veterans, meeting with reporters Thursday under the auspices of the Kerry campaign, recalled blood from Kerry's wounds on the deck and his tears when he met the wives of war-shattered veterans and couldn't do anything to help them.

And these veterans, committed to Kerry's defeat of President Bush, say they are outraged by statements that Kerry exploited the three Purple Hearts he received to get out of the war zone after only five months of service rather than the full year or longer that was the customary tour of duty.

They ridiculed allegations about to be published in a book that Kerry shot himself to secure the third Purple Heart. They said such an act was impossible because of the closeness of their living and working arrangements on the swift boat.

Kerry's campaign staff hopes that the nominee's record in Vietnam stands in contrast to Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard.

John Hurley, national director of Veterans for Kerry, contended that Kerry's record would mobilize large numbers of veterans and active military personnel to vote for Kerry. Kerry's combat experience gives him a perspective "that war should only be a last resort," Short said, questioning Bush's decision to go to war against Iraq."

4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"July 29, 2004

Sailors on board with Kerry

By David Hammer
The Associated Press

BOSTON - This time, Jim Rassmann had a life preserver.

In Vietnam, Navy Lt. John Kerry had to become one for him, reaching into a canal to pluck out Rassmann, an Army lieutenant who had fallen overboard during a firefight. In the process, Kerry earned one of his three Purple Hearts.

Wednesday, while taking a slow water taxi ride around Boston Harbor, Kerry and 10 men who fought alongside him in Vietnam didn't want to take chances that Rassmann might fall overboard again.

``We put a big ol' life jacket on him,'' said Fred Short, of North Little Rock, Ark. ``It was pretty funny.''

The crew men, who either fought under Kerry's command or commanded other swiftboats on the same missions, reunited to welcome Kerry to the Democratic National Convention, where he is to accept the party's nomination for president Thursday night.

They plan to be on stage with him when he does.

During the water-taxi ride from Boston's Logan Airport to the Charlestown Naval Yard, the old sailors laughed and swapped war tales. The highlight was the joke on Rassmann, now a retired police officer from Florence.

``Later the foolishness stopped, and I turned to John at the bar and asked him if he ever thought he'd live to see another day back then, and we agreed it's amazing we survived,'' Rassmann said.

The former sailors, who call themselves ``Band of Brothers,'' want to dispel claims from other groups, such as Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, who say Kerry's heroics in Vietnam are exaggerated.

``It's important for those who know him and served with him to speak of our experiences, because we want to set the record straight,'' said Mike Medeiros of San Leandro, Calif., who once followed Kerry ashore - straight into a Vietcong ambush.

``He has been in the canals, seen the blood and death,'' said the Rev. David Alston of Columbia, S.C. ``He understands war should be the last resort. Because of that, he's willing to sit at the table of negotiation for a peaceful solution.''

Skip Barker, a lawyer and cotton farmer from Selma, Ala., was commander of a ship that patrolled the same zone as Kerry's. He is an independent who voted for Bush in 2000 but says now, ``I made a mistake.''

``In peacetime, we think we don't need to think about going to war, to have a real commander in chief in the White House,'' Barker said. ``That caught us on 9/11.''

4:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kerry Cottontail or Bush Chicken sh-t? I want the man who had the courage to face the North Vietnamese.

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

George W. Bush's Resume

Past work experience:

Ran for congress and lost.

Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.

Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.

With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments: Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.

Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as president:

Attacked and took over two countries.

Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.

Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history.

Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. (http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleezza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her).

Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the history of the United States.

Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.

Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.

Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).

All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.

Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.

In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References:

At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.

Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review.

For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (They can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)

5:24 PM  
Blogger Francis Lynn said...

Blah, blah, blah. 1. Kool - you can cut & paste. 2. Gee - an ex-Green Beret said that?? Wow - it must be true then, huh? 3. You may hate Bush, but you certainly don't have qualms voting for a self-avowed war criminal, do you? It shows where your honor is. At least go with Nader - he hasn't committed atrocities. And you still haven't addressed the issue of Kerry's war atrocities. He gets a pass on that? That's ok with you? And you probably indignantly mouthed off about the Iraqi prison scandal! Bwahahahaha! Get real.

5:56 PM  
Blogger Francis Lynn said...

One other point Mr. Cut & Paste: That shopping list of Bush's failures is so ludicrously radical left & erroneous & full of lies it is a joke (duh, this is serious stuff, dude). As an example - his refusal to take a drug test - guess what? They didn't have drug testing when Bush was in the Guard! "He deserted" - guess what? He wasn't charged with desertion or AWOL & besides, desertion is for active duty, not reserve as Bush was. Try another, more truthful website to copy. And again, address Kerry's atrocities, hmmmm?

6:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where did you read that Bush refused to take a drug test while he was in the Guard?

4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What no counter to the accolades of Bush's actual shipmates?

4:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have looked and have yet to find the quote that you allege Kerry made about personally committing war atrocities. I have seen quotes he made stating that war atrocities were committed in Vietnam - do you disagree? What atrocities did he say he committed? Could I have the quote - in full as much as possible.

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again Fancis does not check his facts.


New York Post
June 18, 2000

George W. Bush was suspended from flying as a young pilot for failing to take a medical examination that included a drug test, The Sunday Times of London reports today.

In August 1972, as a 26-year-old in the Air National Guard Guard, Bush was grounded for failing to "accomplish" the test created to ferret out drugs from the Vietnam-era military, the paper said, based on documents it obtained.

Bush, 53, the Republican presidential contender, has consistently been dogged by unproven rumors that he used drugs in his youth.

Bush has said he hasn't used drugs since at least 1974 - the year after he left the Air Force.

When he first entered the Air Force reserve unit as a Yale graduate in 1968, Bush was not required to face drug tests.

But in April 1972, the Pentagon implemented a drug-abuse testing program that required officers like part-time reservist Bush to undergo at least one random drug test a year.

A routine urinalysis and exam of the nasal cavities plus questions about drugs were all part of the annual medical, the Sunday Times reports.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The full text:

Vietnam Veterans Against the War Statement by John Kerry to the Senate Committee of Foreign Relations

April 23, 1971


I would like to talk on behalf of all those veterans and say that several months ago in Detroit we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged, and many very highly decorated, veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. These were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command. It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit - the emotions in the room and the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.

They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

We call this investigation the Winter Soldier Investigation. The term Winter Soldier is a play on words of Thomas Paine's in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriots and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country, we could be quiet, we could hold our silence, we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, not the reds, but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out....

In our opinion and from our experience, there is nothing in South Vietnam which could happen that realistically threatens the United States of America. And to attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which we feel has torn this country apart.

We found that not only was it a civil war, an effort by a people who had for years been seeking their liberation from any colonial influence whatsoever, but also we found that the Vietnamese whom we had enthusiastically molded after our own image were hard put to take up the fight against the threat we were supposedly saving them from.

We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy. They only wanted to work in rice paddies without helicopters strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages and tearing their country apart. They wanted everything to do with the war, particularly with this foreign presence of the United States of America, to leave them alone in peace, and they practiced the art of survival by siding with whichever military force was present at a particular time, be it Viet Cong, North Vietnamese or American.

We found also that all too often American men were dying in those rice paddies for want of support from their allies. We saw first hand how monies from American taxes were used for a corrupt dictatorial regime. We saw that many people in this country had a one-sided idea of who was kept free by the flag, and blacks provided the highest percentage of casualties. We saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs and search and destroy missions, as well as by Viet Cong terrorism - and yet we listened while this country tried to blame all of the havoc on the Viet Cong.

We rationalized destroying villages in order to save them. We saw America lose her sense of morality as she accepted very coolly a My Lai and refused to give up the image of American soldiers who hand out chocolate bars and chewing gum.

We learned the meaning of free fire zones, shooting anything that moves, and we watched while America placed a cheapness on the lives of orientals.

We watched the United States falsification of body counts, in fact the glorification of body counts. We listened while month after month we were told the back of the enemy was about to break. We fought using weapons against "oriental human beings." We fought using weapons against those people which I do not believe this country would dream of using were we fighting in the European theater. We watched while men charged up hills because a general said that hill has to be taken, and after losing one platoon or two platoons they marched away to leave the hill for reoccupation by the North Vietnamese. We watched pride allow the most unimportant battles to be blown into extravaganzas, because we couldn't lose, and we couldn't retreat, and because it didn't matter how many American bodies were lost to prove that point, and so there were Hamburger Hills and Khe Sanhs and Hill 81s and Fire Base 6s, and so many others.

Now we are told that the men who fought there must watch quietly while American lives are lost so that we can exercise the incredible arrogance of Vietnamizing the Vietnamese.

Each day to facilitate the process by which the United States washes her hands of Vietnam someone has to give up his life so that the United States doesn't have to admit something that the entire world already knows, so that we can't say that we have made a mistake. Someone has to die so that President Nixon won't be, and these are his words, "the first President to lose a war."

We are asking Americans to think about that because how do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?....We are here in Washington to say that the problem of this war is not just a question of war and diplomacy. It is part and parcel of everything that we are trying as human beings to communicate to people in this country - the question of racism which is rampant in the military, and so many other questions such as the use of weapons; the hypocrisy in our taking umbrage at the Geneva Conventions and using that as justification for a continuation of this war when we are more guilty than any other body of violations of those Geneva Conventions; in the use of free fire zones, harassment interdiction fire, search and destroy missions, the bombings, the torture of prisoners, all accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam. That is what we are trying to say. It is part and parcel of everything.

An American Indian friend of mine who lives in the Indian Nation of Alcatraz put it to me very succinctly. He told me how as a boy on an Indian reservation he had watched television and he used to cheer the cowboys when they came in and shot the Indians, and then suddenly one day he stopped in Vietnam and he said, "my God, I am doing to these people the very same thing that was done to my people," and he stopped. And that is what we are trying to say, that we think this thing has to end.

We are here to ask, and we are here to ask vehemently, where are the leaders of our country? Where is the leadership? We're here to ask where are McNamara, Rostow, Bundy, Gilpatrick, and so many others? Where are they now that we, the men they sent off to war, have returned? These are the commanders who have deserted their troops. And there is no more serious crime in the laws of war. The Army says they never leave their wounded. The marines say they never even leave their dead. These men have left all the casualties and retreated behind a pious shield of public rectitude. They've left the real stuff of their reputations bleaching behind them in the sun in this country....

We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that service as easily as this administration has wiped away their memories of us. But all that they have done and all that they can do by this denial is to make more clear than ever our own determination to undertake one last mission - to search out and destroy the last vestige of this barbaric war, to pacify our own hearts, to conquer the hate and fear that have driven this country these last ten years and more. And more. And so when thirty years from now our brothers go down the street without a leg, without an arm, or a face, and small boys ask why, we will be able to say "Vietnam" and not mean a desert, not a filthy obscene memory, but mean instead where America finally turned and where soldiers like us helped it in the turning.

4:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Article 86—Absence without leave

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Text. “Any member of the armed forces who, without authority—

(1) fails to go to his appointed place of duty at the time prescribed;

(2) goes from that place; or

(3) absents himself or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty at which he is required to be at the time prescribed; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”


(1) Failure to go to appointed place of duty.

(a) That a certain authority appointed a certain time and place of duty for the accused;
(b) That the accused knew of that time and place; and

(c) That the accused, without authority, failed to go to the appointed place of duty at the time prescribed.

(2) Going from appointed place of duty.

(a) That a certain authority appointed a certain time and place of duty for the accused;
(b) That the accused knew of that time and place; and

(c) That the accused, without authority, went from the appointed place of duty after having reported at such place.

(3) Absence from unit, organization, or place of duty.

(a) That the accused absented himself or her-self from his or her unit, organization, or place of duty at which he or she was required to be;
(b) That the absence was without authority from anyone competent to give him or her leave; and

(c) That the absence was for a certain period of time. Note: if the absence was terminated by apprehension, add the following element

(d) That the absence was terminated by apprehension.

(4) Abandoning watch or guard.

(a) That the accused was a member of a guard, watch, or duty;
(b) That the accused absented himself or her-self from his or her guard, watch, or duty section;

(c) That absence of the accused was without authority; and Note: If the absence was with intent to abandon the accused’s guard, watch, or duty section, add the following element

(d) That the accused intended to abandon his or her guard, watch, or duty section.

(5) Absence from unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid maneuvers or field exercises.

(a) That the accused absented himself or herself from his or her unit, organization, or place of duty at which he or she was required to be;
(b) That the absence of the accused was with-out authority;

(c) That the absence was for a certain period of time;

(d) That the accused knew that the absence would occur during a part of a period of maneuvers or field exercises; and

(e) That the accused intended to avoid all or part of a period of maneuvers or field exercises.


(1) In general. This article is designed to cover every case not elsewhere provided for in which any member of the armed forces is through the member’s own fault not at the place where the member is required to be at a prescribed time. It is not necessary that the person be absent entirely from military jurisdiction and control. The first part of this article—relating to the appointed place of duty—applies whether the place is appointed as a rendezvous for several or for one only.

(2) Actual knowledge. The offenses of failure to go to and going from appointed place of duty require proof that the accused actually knew of the appointed time and place of duty. The offense of absence from unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid maneuvers or field exercises requires proof that the accused actually knew that the absence would occur during a part of a period of maneuvers or field exercises. Actual knowledge may be proved by circumstantial evidence.

(3) Intent. Specific intent is not an element of unauthorized absence. Specific intent is an element for certain aggravated unauthorized absences.

(4) Aggravated forms of unauthorized absence. There are variations of unauthorized absence under Article 86(3) which are more serious because of aggravating circumstances such as duration of the absence, a special type of duty from which the accused absents himself or herself, and a particular specific intent which accompanies the absence. These circumstances are not essential elements of a violation of Article 86. They simply constitute special matters in aggravation. The following are aggravated unauthorized absences:

(a) Unauthorized absence for more than 3 days (duration).
(b) Unauthorized absence for more than 30 days (duration).

(c) Unauthorized absence from a guard, watch, or duty (special type of duty).

(d) Unauthorized absence from guard, watch, or duty section with the intent to abandon it (special type of duty and specific intent).

(e) Unauthorized absence with the intent to avoid maneuvers or field exercises (special type of duty and specific intent).

(5) Control by civilian authorities. A member of the armed forces turned over to the civilian authorities upon request under Article 14 (see R.C.M. 106) is not absent without leave while held by them under that delivery. When a member of the armed forces, being absent with leave, or absent without leave, is held, tried, and acquitted by civilian authorities, the member’s status as absent with leave, or absent without leave, is not thereby changed, regardless how long held. The fact that a member of the armed forces is convicted by the civilian authorities, or adjudicated to be a juvenile offender, or the case is “diverted” out of the regular criminal process for a probationary period does not excuse any unauthorized absence, because the member’s inability to return was the result of willful misconduct. If a member is released by the civilian authorities with-out trial, and was on authorized leave at the time of arrest or detention, the member may be found guilty of unauthorized absence only if it is proved that the member actually committed the offense for which detained, thus establishing that the absence was the result of the member’s own misconduct.

(6) Inability to return. The status of absence without leave is not changed by an inability to return through sickness, lack of transportation facilities, or other disabilities. But the fact that all or part of a period of unauthorized absence was in a sense en-forced or involuntary is a factor in extenuation and should be given due weight when considering the initial disposition of the offense. When, however, a person on authorized leave, without fault, is unable to return at the expiration thereof, that person has not committed the offense of absence without leave.

(7) Determining the unit or organization of an accused. A person undergoing transfer between activities is ordinarily considered to be attached to the activity to which ordered to report. A person on temporary additional duty continues as a member of the regularly assigned unit and if the person is absent from the temporary duty assignment, the person becomes absent without leave from both units, and may be charged with being absent without leave from either unit.

(8) Duration. Unauthorized absence under Article 86(3) is an instantaneous offense. It is complete at the instant an accused absents himself or herself without authority. Duration of the absence is a matter in aggravation for the purpose of increasing the maximum punishment authorized for the offense. Even if the duration of the absence is not over 3 days, it is ordinarily alleged in an Article 86(3) specification. If the duration is not alleged or if alleged but not proved, an accused can be convicted of and punished for only 1 day of unauthorized absence.

(9) Computation of duration. In computing the duration of an unauthorized absence, any one continuous period of absence found that totals not more than 24 hours is counted as 1 day; any such period that totals more than 24 hours and not more than 48 hours is counted as 2 days, and so on. The hours of departure and return on different dates are assumed to be the same if not alleged and proved. For example, if an accused is found guilty of unauthorized absence from 0600 hours, 4 April, to 1000 hours, 7 April of the same year (76 hours), the maximum punishment would be based on an absence of 4 days. However, if the accused is found guilty simply of unauthorized absence from 4 April to 7 April, the maximum punishment would be based on an absence of 3 days.

(10) Termination—methods of return to military control.

(a) Surrender to military authority. A surrender occurs when a person presents himself or herself to any military authority, whether or not a member of the same armed force, notifies that authority of his or her unauthorized absence status, and submits or demonstrates a willingness to submit to military control. Such a surrender terminates the unauthorized absence.
(b) Apprehension by military authority. Apprehension by military authority of a known absentee terminates an unauthorized absence.

(c) Delivery to military authority. Delivery of a known absentee by anyone to military authority terminates the unauthorized absence.

(d) Apprehension by civilian authorities at the request of the military. When an absentee is taken into custody by civilian authorities at the request of military authorities, the absence is terminated.

(e) Apprehension by civilian authorities with-out prior military request. When an absentee is in the hands of civilian authorities for other reasons and these authorities make the absentee available for return to military control, the absence is terminated when the military authorities are informed of the absentee’s availability.

(11) Findings of more than one absence under one specification. Anaccused may properly be found guilty of two or more separate unauthorized absences under one specification, provided that each absence is included within the period alleged in the specification and provided that the accused was not misled. If an accused is found guilty of two or more unauthorized absences under a single specification, the maximum authorized punishment shall not exceed that authorized if the accused had been found guilty as charged in the specification.

4:53 PM  
Blogger Francis Lynn said...

( Meet The Press Audiotape, April 18, 1971):

MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time or another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do you consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by law in this country?

SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.

(End audiotape)

Gee whiz - so Kerry as an officer committed atrocities, like Lt. Calley, though he knew these orders were unlawful. Guess it didn't bother his conscious to commit them. Ah - Nazi resasoning - He was ordered to commit atrocities, so punish them, not him - he was just obeying orders. Bwahaha. Kerry is scum. It's unbelievable that he slandered the soldiers & lied about the atrocities, but we still have fools defending him. Yet the radicals jump on Bush for a drunk driving charge or blah, blah, blah!! By the way, did I mention that Kerry is scum?

5:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At the moment it is up to the Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces to set policy. Why won't George Bush request court martials for all the Generals, other officers, Presidents who it is believed knew of, ordered and/or committed war crimes? Kerry included if he did commit war crimes? It Bush's duty; is it not? Or did Kerry not commit a war crime? I do not see a statement by him that he did. As to atrocities - Bush is President is he not - but unfortunately that is not a crime - legally anyway. Still President Bush's duty is to uphold the laws of the United States. He must ask for court martials of those who did commit war crimes.

1:10 PM  
Blogger Francis Lynn said...

Geesh - this last comment is so disingenuous as to be incomprehensible. It's a feeble atempt to take the spotlight off Kerry's statement that he committed atrocities (which equals war crimes for the uninformed), although Anon sees no statement(duh). Taking Kerry's own words that he did commit them, I see no outrage from the Kerry lovers that their boy did commit them. Let's hear the excuses why he gets a pass on this.

1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not gay and have no desire to be Kerry's lover. That was not nice to say - but I guess typical of a Republican's way of distorting a man's words.

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First. I did not ask that Kerry get a pass on this. I did ask that our President George Bush do his sworn duty to uphold the laws of the United States and bring to trial all those that did commit crimes. If this incldes Kerry, so be it.
Secondly. Many atrocities are not crimes under law. You cannot equate atrocity as as a legal crime as you cannot equate a sin under God with a legal crime. Unfortunately many sins and atrocities are legal under International and American law. God will judge in the end.

3:53 PM  
Blogger Francis Lynn said...

Still waiting (yawn) for condemnation of Kerry's atrocities(it'll never happen, folks). The stupid comment about Bush charging everyone with war crimes is - well - stupid. Geesh - now atrocities don't fall under legal crimes. These nuts twist anything to assuage Kerry's complicity. I guess "atrocities" falls in same category as chewing gum in line. So let me get this straight - Kerry committed atrocities, but they were not crimes under the law as long as they were legal atrocities. Is this the moronic position you're trying to defend?! Please give me a few atrocities that are legal - I feel evil today.

4:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


1. Abortion. In total and of viable babies.

2. About 15 years ago it was legal to rape your wife

3. The three strikes laws in some states can put you away for littering.

4. Life sentences in the past in Texas for smoking marijuana.

5. Lack of compensation in many states of individuals found to be injustly imprisoned.

There are plenty more to be found.

2:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad Bad John Kerry. I condemn you.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAH!!!!!!! I win. WIN WIN WIN LOL

12:34 PM  
Blogger Francis Lynn said...

We are talking atrocities in the context of a war zone, dunderhead. So what atrocities did Kerry commit that were legal? And you couldn't win if you were the only one in a contest.

12:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An article in today's NY Post (Right Wing Newspaper) is disputing the credentials of the people making these slanderous anti-Kerry comments. His actual crewmates say that these people have fabricated thier stories and were not actually on the Swift Boats with Kerry and themselves.

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